States petition to secede from union
By Jake Miller / CBS News/ November 12, 2012, 2:39 PM
They don't want to take their country back They just want to leave it behind.
As the dust settles in the wake of President Obama's decisive reelection last Tuesday, the White House petition website has been flooded by a series of secession requests, with malcontents from
New Jersey to North Dakota submitting petitions to allow their states to withdraw from the union.
Most of the petitions submitted thus far have come from solidly conservative states, including most of the Deep South and reliably separatist Texas. But a handful come from the heart of blue America -
relatively progressive enclaves like Oregon and New York. All told, petitions have been filed on behalf of 20 states: Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan,
Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas.
Many of the petitions invoke the Declaration of Independence's dramatic assertion that "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever
any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government."
The petitions have been submitted through the White House's "We the People" website, which aims to give "all Americans a way to engage their government on the issues that matter to them."
The White House promises that "If a petition meets the signature threshold, it will be reviewed by the Administration and we will issue a response." The threshold is 25,000 signatures in
30 days and, at the time of this article's publication, none of the secession petitions have reached the threshold (the Texas petition has received over 22,000 and needs to hit 25,000 by
Dec. 9; Louisiana, with just under 15,000 signatures, needs to hit the threshold by Dec. 7.)
For some of the states represented, the secession requests are nothing novel: South Carolina, the state whose 1860 secession sparked the civil war, is hardly an unlikely locus of conservative angst in
response to Mr. Obama's victory. And in Texas, which still conceives of itself as a "republic," not a mere "state," politicians seem to make an almost annual show of flirting with secession, periodically
dropping dark hints that Washington's chicanery may force the Lone Star state to flee the Union. After repeatedly nodding at the possibility of secession in the last few years, Gov. Rick Perry, R-Tex.,
has more recently kept mum on the subject. But some local GOP officials in Texas have been happy to fill the void: Tom Head, a county judge from Lubbock predicted in August that Obama's reelection could
lead to a second civil war. And the treasurer of the Hardin County Republican Party, Peter Morrison, asked in a post-election newsletter, "Why should Vermont and Texas live under the same government?"
Morrison's newsletter requested an "amicable divorce" from the "maggots" who reelected President Obama, many of them voting on an "ethnic basis."
The Texas petition assails the federal government's "neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending," arguing that "it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so
would protect it's citizens' standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government."
But some political officials in the states involved are not so eager to hop onboard the secession bandwagon, post-election angst or not. Morrison's boss, Hardin County GOP Chairman Kent Batman, explained, "People around here
are asking why Texas is so different from the rest of the country, why we see things so differently...but I don't think a lot of people here are saying we ought to leave the Union."
Asked about Morrison's newsletter comments, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports that Batman sighed and replied, "Wow...OK, well, I guess I need to start taking a look at his newsletters."
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With Stickers, a Petition and Even a
Middle Name, Secession Fever Hits Texas
By MANNY FERNANDEZ
Published: November 23, 2012
HOUSTON � In the weeks since President Obama�s re-election, Republicans around the country have been wondering how to proceed. Some conservatives in Texas have been asking a far more pointed question: how to secede.
Larry Scott Kilgore announced that he was running for governor in 2014 and would legally change his name to Larry Secede Kilgore, with Secede in capital letters.
Secession fever has struck parts of Texas, which Mitt Romney won by nearly 1.3 million votes. Sales of bumper stickers reading �Secede� � one for $2, or three for $5 � have increased at
TexasSecede.com. In East Texas, a Republican official sent out an e-mail newsletter saying it was time for Texas and Vermont to each �go her own way in peace� and sign a free-trade
agreement among the states.
A petition calling for secession that was filed by a Texas man on a White House Web site has received tens of thousands of signatures, and the Obama administration must now issue a response.
And Larry Scott Kilgore, a perennial Republican candidate from Arlington, a Dallas suburb, announced that he was running for governor in 2014 and would legally change his name to Larry Secede
Kilgore, with Secede in capital letters. As his Web page, secedekilgore.com, puts it: �Secession! All other issues can be dealt with later.� In Texas, talk of secession in recent years has
steadily shifted to the center from the fringe right. It has emerged as an echo of the state Republican leadership�s anti-Washington, pro-Texas-sovereignty mantra on a variety of issues, including
health care and environmental regulations. For some Texans, the renewed interest in the subject serves simply as comic relief after a crushing election defeat.
But for other proponents of secession and its sister ideology, Texas nationalism � a focus of the Texas Nationalist Movement and other groups that want the state to become an independent nation, as
it was in the 1830s and 1840s � it is a far more serious matter. The official in East Texas, Peter Morrison, the treasurer of the Hardin County Republican Party, said in a statement that he had
received overwhelming support from conservative Texans and overwhelming opposition from liberals outside the state in response to his comments in his newsletter. He said that it may take time for
�people to appreciate that the fundamental cultural differences between Texas and other parts of the United States may be best addressed by an amicable divorce, a peaceful separation.�
The online petitions � created on the We the People platform at petitions.whitehouse.gov � are required to receive 25,000 signatures in 30 days for the White House to respond. The Texas petition,
created Nov. 9 by a man identified as Micah H. of Arlington, had received more than 116,000 signatures by Friday. It asks the Obama administration to �peacefully grant� the withdrawal of Texas,
and describes doing so as �practically feasible,� given the state�s large economy. Residents in other states, including Alabama, Florida, Colorado, Louisiana and Oklahoma, have submitted similar
petitions, though none have received as many signatures as the one from Texas.
Gov. Rick Perry, who twice made public remarks in 2009 suggesting that he was sympathetic to the secessionist cause, will not be signing the petition. �Governor Perry believes in the greatness of our union,
and nothing should be done to change it,� a spokeswoman, Catherine Frazier, said in a statement. �But he also shares the frustrations many Americans have with our federal government.�
The secession movement in Texas is divergent, with differences in goals and tactics. One group, the Republic of Texas, says that secession is unnecessary because, it claims, Texas is an independent
nation that was illegally annexed by the United States in 1845. (The group�s leader and other followers waged a weeklong standoff with the Texas Rangers in 1997 that left one of its members dead.)
Mr. Kilgore, the candidate who is changing his middle name, said he had not signed the White House petition because he did not believe that Texans needed to ask Washington for permission to leave.
�Our economy is about 30 percent larger than that of Australia,� said Mr. Kilgore, 48, a telecommunications contractor. �Australia can survive on their own, and I don�t think we�ll have any problem
at all surviving on our own in Texas.� Few of the public calls for secession have addressed the messy details, like what would happen to the state�s many federal courthouses, prisons, military bases
and parklands. No one has said what would become of Kevin Patteson, the director of the state�s Office of State-Federal Relations, and no one has asked the Texas residents who received tens of millions
of dollars in federal aid after destructive wildfires last year for their thoughts on the subject. But all the secession talk has intrigued liberals as well. Caleb M. of Austin started his own petition
on the White House Web site. He asked the federal government to allow Austin to withdraw from Texas and remain part of the United States, �in the event that Texas is successful in the current bid to secede.�
It had more than 8,000 signatures
Tea Party group wants
Montana to secede from union
November 20, 2012 11:45 pm
By CHARLES S. JOHNSON Gazette State Bureau
HELENA � A Tea Party group based in Billings has launched digital petitions asking the White House to allow Montana to secede from the United States and create its own new government.
Similar efforts began in all 50 states after the President Barack Obama�s victory earlier this month, the Los Angeles Times reported.
There are two separate digital petitions requesting that Montana be allowed to secede on the White House website for petitions.
Spearheading the secession effort here are the Montana Shrugged Tea Party Patriots.
�It�s more of an attention-getter,� said Eric Olsen, the group�s co-founder. �We�re trying to raise our voice again, hoping people will listen. We hope somebody listens to us someday.�
The petitions call on the Obama administration to �peacefully grant the state of Montana to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.�
As of Tuesday afternoon, one Montana petition had the first names of 13,334 signers, while the other had 61.
Anyone can sign the petitions. People signing the petitions electronically do not have to be from the state seeking to secede. Many of the people signing them were from out of state.
On Nov. 13, blogger Tyler Evilsizer reported on IntelligentDisconent.com that of the 7,425 people who had signed the Montana petition by then, only 8 percent were from Montana, while 69 percent were from out of state. The other 23 percent left their addresses blank.
Montana Shrugged�s Olsen called the petitions a step in a long battle and a move to garner some publicity.
�We had some pretty good press for two years,� Olsen said. �After 2010, the press ignored us. It�s just another voice to say we�re still here. We just need the federal government to wake up.�
He added, �This is just a thing to raise the voice of concern. The Tea Party is concerned about deficits and extreme budgets.�
Craig Wilson, a political science professor at Montana State University Billings, called the digital petition for secession a sign of the polarization that exists in Montana and nationally.
�Obviously, they�re a faction of the electorate in Montana,� Wilson said. However, Wilson said the Tea Party group from Montana can�t secede from the United States. It would require a federal
constitutional amendment to allow a state to secede. He said the MSUB poll done this fall found that 87 percent who disapproved of President Barack Obama said they were economically worse off than
they were four years earlier. It also showed that 67 percent who said they were economically better off since 2008 said they would vote for Obama.
�You have economic unrest linked to political unrest,� Wilson said, adding that each affects the other.
The Obama White House has a website, �We the People,� through which people can petition their government. The website is at: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/.
Petitioners have 30 days to obtain 25,000 digital signatures to get a response from the White House.
Insurrection, Sedition,Treason An Idaho Institution
Seceding A Minor Formality
BOISE, Idaho (KBOI) -- A petition has been started to withdraw Idaho from the United States of America and become its own government.
The petition was started from the White House's "We the People" website, which was set up by the Obama administration for citizens to engage with government.
The online petition was created by a Meridian resident on November 11th and already has more than 5,000 signatures.
The petitions reads, "We the people of the great state of Idaho are angered that the federal government is violating our natural/God-given rights...
it is time to take matter upon ourselves and ensure our continue freedom."
Although thousands have already signed the petition, many of those signatures are not from Idaho residents.
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History of Terrorism & Idaho
This link reviews some of the known incidents of terrorism
and racism in Idaho. Includes possible use of Anthrax at Ada County Courthouse; veterans amassing large arsenals which
had to be seized by Canada and the US.....
Derrick Belcher, Man Behind
Alabama Secession Petition,
Mad About Losing Topless Car Wash (VIDEO)
The Huffington Post | By Cavan Sieczkowski
Posted: 11/16/2012 9:14 am EST Updated: 11/16/2012 11:26 am
Meet Derrick Belcher, a 45-year-old from Chunchula, Ala. Belcher is a truck driver, knife collector, "absolute Libertarian" and previously owned a topless car wash --
that is, until the government shut down his business, he claims. According to Alabama.com, Belcher is so upset with the government, he's petitioning for Alabama to
secede from the United States.
�I don�t think any one state can stand alone. But if we�ve got 20 of them, then that starts to be something,� Belcher said of the secession movement. �If you look at a map
of the red states, we have all of the oil and we produce all of the food. We�re the ones that are carrying the rest of the nation.�The Alabama native blames the federal government
for shutting down his topless car wash, Euro Details, which he claims was successful for a decade in Mobile, according to Alabama.com. In 2001, Belcher was arrested and charged
with obscenity. �The government ripped my business away, and now they�re choking America to death with rules and regulations,� he said.
Alabama enacted its anti-obscenity law in 1998, prohibiting private businesses and clubs from allowing breasts, genitalia and buttocks to be shown for entertainment,
the Chicago Tribune previously reported. Although legislators claimed the law was instituted to stop nude dancing, "opponents argue the statute is so broad that it could be used to
censor any type of entity that shows nudity," the Tribute explained. Belcher's topless car wash fell under this umbrella.
So, last Friday, he started the Alabama secession petition in hopes that his state will be granted the right to secede from the Union, according to WKRG, a CBS News affiliate. Petitions
to secede from the U.S. have been filed in all 50 states. �The American people are being mistreated by the federal government and there is absolutley no reason why we shouldn't end this
treatment from the federal government,� Belcher told WKRG. �And I guess there is a part of me that is angry because my government has mistreated me year after year after year and I am fed
up with it and I know there are several other people in this state and all across the country that are fed up with it as well.�
As of this writing, the Alabama secession petition had garnered 29,113 signatures on the White House's "We The People" online petition tool. According to the petition, 25,000
signatures are required for the White House to review it.
NC petitioners seek break
By Andrew Edwards | The Daily Tar Heel
Updated: 11/16/12 1:05am
North Carolina seceded from the Union more than 150 years ago.
But if petitioners have their way, the Tar Heel state will again separate from the United States.
The N.C. petitioners are not alone. As of Wednesday night, citizens have petitioned for each of the 50 states to peacefully secede from
the U.S. through the White House�s website, petitions.whitehouse.gov. North Carolina�s secession petition, which has collected more than
27,000 signatures since its creation on Nov. 9, was drafted by conservative blogger, columnist and Pittsboro resident Randy Dye.
Political analysts say the petitioners are likely more concerned about voicing their disapproval with the Obama administration than actually following through with secession.
Mark Jones, professor and chairman of the political science department at Rice University in Texas, said the level of support for Texas� petition likely stems from residents� concerns about the outcome of the presidential election.
He added that the state has always had a self-governing mentality.
�I think states need to become independent again like our forefathers had planned,� Dye said. �The federal government is too huge to wrap my mind around. I think we need
to bring it back to the states to the point where � (state) representatives can control (each state�s) finances better and keep track of them versus having someone in Washington do it.�
Dye says while he knows the petition is �absolutely going to go nowhere,� he drafted the petition on principle, citing strong objections to the federal government�s deficit spending and mounting debt.
According to an e-mail from a White House official, every petition that receives more than 25,000 signatures will be reviewed and issued an official response from President Barack Obama�s administration.
As of Wednesday night, petitions from seven states � including North Carolina � exceeded the signature threshold needed to merit a response from the White House. Among these petitions, Texas has garnered the
most support, with almost 104,000 signatures.
�Texas has the history of being a formerly independent country � there is often a mistaken belief that we somehow have an additional privilege or ability that other
states don�t have,� he said. Harry Watson, a UNC history professor and former director of the University�s Center for the Study of the American South, said he could
not recall a secession movement that began with an effort to petition the federal government. The Confederate States did not petition the United States government
when they left the nation � they just did it,� he said.
Published November 14, 2012 in State
North Carolina Long
Tradition of Sedition, Treason, Sedition
This link reviews North Carolina where
sedition and treason and terrorism are long established public institutions. Simply put a state
full of superpatriots who believe in waive the flag one day and if they don't get what they
want-will overthrow the government the next.
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North Carolina Seceeds From Union
"Gov. Rick Perry: Texas Wants To Follow
North Carolina already seceeded from the Union apparently the US
Government none the wiser and naturally Texas and other states wanted to follow suit and become independent Republics
within the United States
Former Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
State Capitol Building
Sacramento, CA 95814
13 California Counties
Look to Secede, Create New State
ABC News' Amy Bingham reports:
Jul 14, 2011 6:01am
At a time when partisan politics are so divisive that the federal government seems incapable of averting a government default, polarization of state political parties could literally tear states apart.
Disgruntled voters in both California and Arizona are trying to secede from their respective states to escape state governments that they say are on a fast-track in the wrong direction.
In California, a state ruled by Democrats, 13 southern and mostly Republican counties are petitioning to create their own state. �Onerous regulations on business� that are driving jobs out of the state
and the California legislature�s attempts to balance the budget by �stealing� tax revenue from local governments are two reason why Riverside County Supervisor Jeff Stone said he is pushing for secession.
The Riverside County Board of Supervisors voted Tuesday to hold a meeting in late September of representatives from every city and county in California to decide if their grievances can be solved without secession.
If not, the group will hammer out the details of creating a new state.
�Obviously I touched a nerve that is felt not only among Californians but among people around the country who feel their voices are not being heard,� Stone said. �I�m hoping that the nerve
that I touch with a lot of citizens will resonate and we will see dramatic changes in the way we do business in the state and the way we do business in this country.� The break-away counties include about 13 million
people or about a third of California�s population. In order to secede they have to first get approval from the California legislature, which is totally controlled by Democrats, then create a constitution and petition
the U.S. Congress to approve their statehood.
Despite the obvious obstacle of getting the Democrats who control the state Senate and Assembly on board with his plan, Stone said secession �is not impossible.�
�Is it challenging? No question about it. When the citizens get mad they can do some pretty extraordinary things. No one thought we could recall a governor, but you know what we did it,�
Stone said, referring to the 2003 recall election in which voters replaced Democratic Gov. Gray Davis with Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger.....
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Exectutive Director Vern
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Modesto, CA 95353
Terrorist Solicit Attack USAFBAttack on Air Force Base: Recruiter tries to hire mercenaries
for disgruntled Cuban General to attack Homestead AFB. Solicitation on front door Modesto Gospel Mission in
late 1980's for pay knew an lot of detail about base and flight line operations 2,000 miles away in Florida. Later the same organization
as involved with Anthrax Salesman...
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Oregon & Washington Request Seceede From Union
Assassinations & Terrorist Activities Through HUD 10
The speaker at the Medford Gospel Mission named Hapless explains he is highly decorated
Korean era combat veteran and recently survived brain surgery after motorcycle accident.
During the course of the sermon he suggest every white man get a gun ; make war on the United
States; and kill that "nigger in the whitehouse" to an audience primary composed of former veterans.
Problem is of the 80 persons in the service including the Rescue Mission staff no one called
the police, FBI, or Secret Service. The State of Oregon has a long, long history of
terrorism involving both
White Supremacist; alleged Mafia; and even a group from India whose activities include
assassination of public officials; public request to overthrow the government....
Reliable press reports indicate
Oregonians are requesting permission in 2012 to secede from the Union as cited:
Allow Oregon to vote on and leave the Union
peacefully and remain an ally to the Nation.
Suns of Thunder Motorcycle
"Kill That Nigger In The Whitehouse"
Speaking at Medford Gospel Mission
Medford, Oregon 97501
With the Federal Govenrment increasing it's size much larger than our Founding Father's intended, and it's abuse of power trumping over the rights of
State constitutions, and the forcing of unconstitutional laws over it's own citizens, the people of Oregon would like the chance to vote on leaving the
Union immediately. The Federal Government has imposed policies on Oregon that are not in Oregon's best intrests, and we as citizens would respectively
and peacably seperate ourselves from a tyranical Government who cares nothing about creating a sustainable future for our children. At any time that
the citizens of Oregon felt the Federal Government was no longer imposing on the Constitution we could re-vote to again join the Union
under a new agreement
Historically Oregonians are a rather strange people who are super patriotic on one hand and want to overthrow the government
anytime they can't have their way and as the press news store indicated are have made several spelling errors and are illeterate.